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Feb242013

2/24 to 3/2 2013

02-24-2013 01:19:23
Door
So you all are logged in? My prodigio wont connect.
02-24-2013 08:28:20
BruceB_RR
There seems to be a couple of people that are having problems logging in. There must be a router or something down. I am connected and running, but I have not logged out all weekend.
02-24-2013 08:38:56
Door
yeah mine wont connect to a new session
02-24-2013 09:00:10
BruceB_RR
I texted Mike, He says he will get someone down there to take a look at what is happening.
They just restarted a server. So try logging in again now!
Hey Hydroman, that may solve your problem too!
02-24-2013 09:28:05
Hydroman
Yes, it did resolve my issue. Thank You !
02-24-2013 09:29:00
BruceB_RR
Sorry, I should have thought to text Mike yesterday.
02-24-2013 09:34:18
Door
Thanks Bruce.. that fixed my issue too!
how accurate are the prices of back test? i keep getting a bad tick on KO.. saying it traded @59 last august..
02-24-2013 10:14:28
BruceB_RR
Looking at the chart, It looks like they may have done a stock split in Aug.
02-25-2013 11:17:46
cosmo
Order management not working correctly again on my client.
02-25-2013 05:59:18
steve
been a few days. How is everyone
02-25-2013 06:06:11
BruceB_RR
Hey Steve, how is it going?
02-25-2013 06:22:38
steve
pretty good..you?
02-25-2013 06:23:07
BruceB_RR
Not bad.
02-25-2013 06:23:13
steve
any word about going live?
02-25-2013 06:25:47
BruceB_RR
I'm not aloud to say anything yet, but I hope to be able to soon.
02-25-2013 06:26:54
steve
i understand
02-25-2013 06:27:33
BruceB_RR
Got to stay on every ones good side. ;)
02-25-2013 06:27:41
steve
:)
02-25-2013 06:27:59
BruceB_RR
Do you have a account at OH already.
?
02-25-2013 06:28:57
steve
nope
need to see if they would match Interactive brokers
02-25-2013 06:30:14
BruceB_RR
OH will be the only broker available for trading live.
02-25-2013 06:32:10
steve
i know. dont know if it would be worth going to OH
02-25-2013 06:32:42
BruceB_RR
What is the deal at IB?
02-25-2013 08:10:34
steve
.005 cents a share minimum trade $1.00. I can do a 200 lot for $1.00 a side
good night everyone
02-26-2013 09:04:00
Praying_Mantis
Morning fellas!!
02-26-2013 09:07:21
BruceB_RR
Morning PM, Whats new?
02-26-2013 09:37:14
cosmo
Order management working this morning
02-26-2013 09:38:10
BruceB_RR
I wonder what was different yesterday?
02-26-2013 09:39:50
cosmo
I don't know however I watched a buch of very profitable trades not close at the open and dwindle away until I manualy closed the the whole crop.
Management working very well
02-26-2013 10:15:09
DoorBoy
Hmm, so i keep having a trade on TO flash to short, however it wont trigger even tho its on my rts
02-26-2013 10:16:02
BruceB_RR
Is it a Short strategy?
02-26-2013 10:16:19
DoorBoy
yeah its a short strat.. and the TO says to 'sell'
02-26-2013 10:17:52
cosmo
Short Enabled at top?
02-26-2013 10:17:58
BruceB_RR
Make sure your criteria was actually met. I just sent in a email to Dan with a bad TO hit.
02-26-2013 10:18:21
DoorBoy
Okay ill look it over.. it keeps buzzing every minute lol
Would it throw a sell signal when it is hitting an exit rule instead?
02-26-2013 10:19:31
cosmo
If the the exit is close of a long
02-26-2013 10:19:59
BruceB_RR
Yes, TradeOptics is now showing both Enter and Exit points for Strategies.
Also check your buying power and other settings that limit when you can buy.
02-26-2013 10:22:12
DoorBoy
yeah buying power is 1/15 and i only have 6 positions open
so it should have triggered
02-26-2013 10:24:09
BruceB_RR
What is your shares rounding set to?
02-26-2013 10:24:55
DoorBoy
ones
02-26-2013 10:25:05
BruceB_RR
Ok :)
02-26-2013 10:26:23
DoorBoy
just added the strat back into to and rts.. gonna see if it fires now
It has to be the exit signal posting as a sell, there is not a 1-minute trigger in that strat except for in the sell signal.
02-26-2013 10:30:55
BruceB_RR
Double check that your Entry is a Sell.
02-26-2013 10:31:13
DoorBoy
it is :/
it doesnt meet any of the criteria for the short sell, so it must be the exit strat triggering
02-26-2013 10:40:51
BruceB_RR
I was running one of the Stoch templates in TO yesterday for Mike. Yesterday it was working great in both TO and Backtesting. Today the TO results I'm getting seem wacked.
http://i.imgur.com/whtJGhe.png
There is no Exit rule setup for this at all.
02-26-2013 10:47:44
DoorBoy
hmm so its not just me.
02-26-2013 11:42:27
BruceB_RR
Well the last four hits on that rule have been good now.
02-26-2013 12:31:32
cosmo
Click on crude oil in the Pivots section on a 30min chart to see chart bug.
02-26-2013 12:41:52
BruceB_RR
I don't think it is a chart bug, I think there is something wrong with the data feed for sweet crude.
02-26-2013 12:56:43
cosmo
Could be as the other futures seem to work
02-26-2013 06:22:34
BruceB_RR
Hey Roger, How is it going :)
02-26-2013 08:37:53
Roger Beseke
I just finished dinner. I signed up for the documentation and am logged in but I still can't see the advanced manual. I did get the MFI to link up so now it is time to learn
02-26-2013 11:18:23
BruceB_RR
Welcome aboard Roger. The advanced manual is part of the subscription level of this site. I do occasionally give out links to articles in it like I did for your MFI question.
02-27-2013 12:02:34
Praying_Mantis
Hey RR!! sorry...I was distracted both yesterday and this morning...
all is okay so far. Nothing really new to report.
On my end with Prodigio, it seems as though the exits are working well...for now.
02-27-2013 12:03:58
BruceB_RR
Been a bit quite in here today. :)
02-27-2013 12:53:40
Praying_Mantis
ahh BA...what a buying opportunity it was a few weeks ago!!
02-27-2013 12:56:40
BruceB_RR
I'm not doing to bad with having picked it up yesterday. ;)
02-27-2013 12:57:01
Praying_Mantis
really?
awesome trade!
02-27-2013 12:58:27
BruceB_RR
Yeah, got it at 75.32 with one of my Key Reversal strats.
02-27-2013 01:14:10
Praying_Mantis
so the strat just happened to pick BA, or did u direct the strat to specifically target that equity?
02-27-2013 01:14:49
BruceB_RR
It picked BA.
02-27-2013 01:22:34
Praying_Mantis
excellent.
02-27-2013 01:24:53
BruceB_RR
It is a Daily MACD for trend with a 15min Key reversal as a trigger.
I'll be out of here for a few hours, I'll check back in tonight. :)
Made it back alive :)
02-27-2013 05:24:10
Praying_Mantis
;)
02-28-2013 08:54:59
BruceB_RR
Hello World :)
02-28-2013 08:55:23
Praying_Mantis
right back at ya RR!
02-28-2013 09:59:57
BruceB_RR
Got a nice ride with AMGN this morning :)
Same strat as yesterdays.
02-28-2013 10:06:16
Praying_Mantis
beautiful!
if i may ask, is this a list you've compiled, or just the S&P 500 Index that's being applied to the strategy?
02-28-2013 10:17:51
BruceB_RR
Actually that list is just the S&P 100.
02-28-2013 10:18:17
Praying_Mantis
okay, just curious.
thx!
02-28-2013 10:20:31
BruceB_RR
I had been using a list that I had put together from a scan on weekly options. But it was getting a bit old and I haven't taken the time to redo it. So I just stuck in the S&P 100.
I sure hope that they let us link live scans from TradeVision to our strategies soon.
02-28-2013 10:24:10
Praying_Mantis
Interesting. Sounds like you're gonna have to do an article on lists when/how...etc.
02-28-2013 10:24:28
Drewski
Hello all...new user here
02-28-2013 10:24:59
BruceB_RR
Hi Drewski, welcome aboard :)
02-28-2013 10:25:30
Drewski
Thanks...
I've registered and was trying to get into the mnauals for a better understanding of how the logical operators work,,do I have access to that info?
02-28-2013 10:28:02
BruceB_RR
You should have access to the basic manual.
The advanced manual is in the subscription level. But there is a lot of info in the basic level too.
02-28-2013 10:29:44
Drewski
Can you tell me what, if any, the relationship is between your site and Prodigio? it seems unusual that Prodigio has no written documentation on their system
02-28-2013 10:34:52
BruceB_RR
And that is the reason this site got started ;) Mobius, Miss B, and I are long time users and were helping other in the TDA Prodigio chat room. We started saving FAQ's and posting links to them from a joint Evernote account. Then I decided to try and put together a site.
I talked to the Prodigio team about it and they were enthusiastic about the idea and have even given me some help along the way.
02-28-2013 10:38:05
Drewski
So obviously you have confidence in their program, but why would they not produce documentation? Are they properly capitalized?
02-28-2013 10:41:21
BruceB_RR
They had told me when they split with TDA that they had a few years worth of cash to work with. And now they have a contract with OH so that should start gaining back income once they go live again.
02-28-2013 10:43:53
Drewski
How would you rate OH? Is it a reliable broker? How long have they been around? Is there a source for some due diligence?
02-28-2013 10:43:57
BruceB_RR
As far as documentation, most of what they have done is in the form of videos and text descriptions in the platform and in the Learning Center.
I don't really have a personal opinion yet. I did find some reviews in a search. I also have some friends that have accounts there that seem ok with it.
In fact one of my clients is excited that Prodigio is coming to OH as that is where he has his main account. He had only opened up a small account at TDA to play with Prodigio. :)
02-28-2013 10:56:26
Drewski
Well I must say it's challenging to decipher without any documentation. For instane, I was trying to form a simple if statement but I can't even find one used in oneof their canned indicators.
02-28-2013 11:05:14
BruceB_RR
Hmmm, let me take a look. "IF" is a hard word to do a search on.
Wow, my machine just went to a crawl. But here is a link to the "IF" in the advanced manual.
http://rr-corner.squarespace.com/advanced-manual/2011/10/8/if.html
I'll be right back, going to reboot. It's been awhile ;)
02-28-2013 11:20:11
Drewski
well that certainly helps! Thanks...
02-28-2013 11:23:41
BruceB_RR
Ah, that feels better.
Your welcome Drewski.
02-28-2013 11:24:46
Drewski
lets see if i can translate that.....
02-28-2013 11:25:20
BruceB_RR
So, how did you come across Prodigio?
02-28-2013 11:26:10
Drewski
Like many, I am looking for a robotic way to trade...
easier said than done :)
I have searched through many sites, looking for a solution..Prodigio shoed up in one of my investigations
02-28-2013 11:28:26
BruceB_RR
Yep, But that is what I like about Prodigio. They have managed to make it easier then any of the others I had come across at the point I found them.
02-28-2013 11:29:07
Drewski
It seems like its worth a shot. I just have no way to vet either P or OH.
02-28-2013 11:29:16
BruceB_RR
Lets you worry about the logic and not so much the programming.
02-28-2013 11:29:41
Drewski
But it seems less powerful than some other systems
For instance, no way to rank results?
02-28-2013 11:30:16
BruceB_RR
rank in what way?
02-28-2013 11:31:06
Drewski
For instance, compute the RSI(14) for a sector and rank the top two and buy them
02-28-2013 11:32:35
BruceB_RR
That is some of what I want with linking TradeVision results to custom watch lists for RTS
02-28-2013 11:33:40
Drewski
This seems like an obvious function to me (see excel) but they can't do it :(
02-28-2013 11:33:41
BruceB_RR
Right now you have to import the results into a custom list to use them. If it was a live active scan.......
You can build the scan into your strategy. Just ad rules to filter out criteria.
02-28-2013 11:35:51
Drewski
That is why I thought the if statement might help...
Tell me more about you guys...math quants? ex-traders?...coders?
02-28-2013 11:37:03
BruceB_RR
I don't really use the IF much, I use Flags and "AND" logic more then anything.
Mobius is a Math nut, Family hedge fund person.
Miss B, is a Trader. But she is not around much at the moment.
02-28-2013 11:38:52
Drewski
Family hedge fund person? HIs parents are a hedge fund?
02-28-2013 11:39:38
BruceB_RR
I am a Surveyor that started trading in 08 (Sept)
02-28-2013 11:40:00
Drewski
Did you quit the survey gig?
02-28-2013 11:40:03
BruceB_RR
He runs a large hedge fund for his family.
Not by choice :(
02-28-2013 11:41:01
Drewski
I am a retired ex homebuilder looking for a way to invest my money
brb
So how many people do you guys have subscibed to your sit, if you don't mind me asking?
02-28-2013 11:48:06
BruceB_RR
We have 471 members. I don't give out the subscription numbers.
02-28-2013 11:50:24
Drewski
Why would would a guy like Mobius use this kind of system? Doesn't he have much more sophisticated tools than Prodigio?
02-28-2013 11:50:33
BruceB_RR
They have been down quite a bit since Prodigio left TDA. But have started to climb again :)
He actually uses several and likes this one best. But I guess he would have to tell you why. Though he spends most of his time lately in the ThinkScript lounge in TOS. Until he can trade live here again.
02-28-2013 11:55:25
Drewski
What I find interesting about your site is that so many of these kinds of systems have very poor support, unless you invest in the more costly ones like MetaTrader.
02-28-2013 11:58:22
BruceB_RR
I needed a job and saw an importunity to make my own. :)
02-28-2013 11:59:06
Drewski
where are you guys located?
02-28-2013 12:00:12
BruceB_RR
Miss B and I are in Phoenix, Mobius in FL.
02-28-2013 12:01:19
Drewski
Do you trade regularly ?
02-28-2013 12:02:52
BruceB_RR
We all met in the Prodigio chat room in ThinkorSwim. We were the local gurus in the room. We all traded the system live when it was avalible at TOS.
02-28-2013 12:04:23
Drewski
Well I have opened an account at OH and hope to learn the system. When do you think they will go live?
02-28-2013 12:06:35
BruceB_RR
Hmmm, I have a little inside info on that that I can't give out yet. But I am hoping to be able to say soon. Maybe even today or tomorrow.
02-28-2013 12:07:23
Drewski
Well ask the grand poohba to add a rank function for me :)
Btw...did I read the backtest note correctly when it said the maximum lookback period was 1 year?
02-28-2013 12:09:00
BruceB_RR
Oh, you can add a rule to a column in the Quotes tab and then sort by the column.
02-28-2013 12:09:29
Drewski
I understand..but that wouldnt make it an automated trade would it?
02-28-2013 12:10:52
BruceB_RR
You can go back several years, but it is just a years worth of data in any one test at a time.
No, but you can also add the rules to a TradeVision page and then export the results to a watchlist that is traded. That is the part I want automated.
02-28-2013 12:14:03
Drewski
That seems quite short for a valid backtest.....TradeVision? I'm not familiar with them
02-28-2013 12:14:48
BruceB_RR
It is a part of Prodigio, It is a scanning engine.
02-28-2013 12:15:33
Drewski
oic...I havnt gotten that far yet
You have been very generous with your time....I hope I didnt keep you from other tasks
02-28-2013 12:17:35
BruceB_RR
Just adding more stuff into the manual ;) They added a lot this last update.
02-28-2013 12:18:31
Drewski
It just makes no sense to me that they would expect Prodigio to take off without documenttion..but hey, thats goos for you :)
02-28-2013 12:20:52
BruceB_RR
When they started they were part of TOS, They were doing weekly video chats and had there own chat room inside the TOS platform. It was kind of a captive audience.
02-28-2013 12:22:53
Drewski
Well Bruce, thanks for your help. I hope to learn the system, perhaps with your help :)
02-28-2013 12:23:22
BruceB_RR
Take care, and have fun!
02-28-2013 12:23:44
Drewski
You too...!
03-01-2013 09:18:19
BruceB_RR
Good Morning Everyone! :)
03-01-2013 09:37:48
Midwest_Trader
Good Morning RR!
Market down big already. Must be that sequestration stuff setting in... -0
:-)
03-01-2013 09:53:05
BruceB_RR
Gee, did anyone see that coming? lol
03-01-2013 10:10:48
Door
Hm, my triggers arent firing.
03-01-2013 10:25:05
BruceB_RR
I haven't gotten any hits yet either this morning, but I have not gone looking to see if there should have been any yet.
03-01-2013 10:25:59
Door
I have multiple entry rules, and they are all used as Rule and Rule and Rule etc
if one or two of these rules are triggered would it cause it to post a buy? even if all the rules arent met?
I am currently consolidating them into a master strategy to see if this helps
03-01-2013 10:27:34
BruceB_RR
If you have them strung together with ANDs then they all have to be true in order for the strat to fire.
03-01-2013 10:31:10
Door
Hmm, even with the master strat they are all signaling a buy position and not filling.
03-01-2013 10:38:27
BruceB_RR
Hmmm, It doesn't look like my strats should fire yet. The one that could have has a Gap Delay built into it so it is only going to be able to fire starting about now.
03-01-2013 10:43:25
Door
just dont know why mine are flashing signals when they are not suppose to..
The irony, they are not suppose to be showing the signals, i have a long strat on those two that is not accurate so it shouldnt be firing, so in some ways its correct because not all of the strat is met.
03-01-2013 10:49:00
BruceB_RR
Right, if you have them hooked together with "AND" nodes then they all have to be true at the same time for a Master rule or even if you have them all in a Entry order tab with "AND".
Added @OptionsHouse to the sites twitter feed. Just in case I don't find out first, don't want to miss any announcements.
That IBD seminar looks interesting. :)
03-01-2013 04:01:57
Praying_Mantis
Happy Sequestration Day!!
03-01-2013 04:19:23
BruceB_RR
:|
03-02-2013 05:34:39
cosmo
Since when did the BT start buying after 16:00?
On SPY
03-02-2013 06:10:55
BruceB_RR
Interesting, Very interesting. I also got hits on DIA and QQQ.
03-02-2013 06:13:01
cosmo
UPRO and IWM don't show any after 16:00
03-02-2013 06:13:03
BruceB_RR
I setup a simple time between 9:29-16:00 and got results for hits from 16:00 to 16:30 and some more at the open at 9:30
the trigger was a 5 min Up Bar.
03-02-2013 06:16:15
cosmo
Mine is a 5min rule with a 1min trigger
03-02-2013 06:17:51
BruceB_RR
I miss-typed my time rule, it was 9:29 - 16:00 -> NOT
03-02-2013 06:19:49
cosmo
So I wonder if it is just SPY or the engine?
03-02-2013 06:20:06
BruceB_RR
I ran it with a list called ETF sprinters and got lots of hits. SMH, SPY, GLD, IWM, XLE.........
Looks like that is one of the public lists.
03-02-2013 06:21:34
cosmo
I'm runing it on my main list now
running
Nothing in my custom list does that. Only SPY that was entered as a single stock
03-02-2013 06:41:32
BruceB_RR
Do you have a lot of ETF's in your list?
03-02-2013 06:51:01
cosmo
none
High growth rate list
03-02-2013 06:51:46
BruceB_RR
and SPY?
03-02-2013 06:52:11
cosmo
Spy was entered into the symbol box by ir=tself
03-02-2013 06:52:24
BruceB_RR
ah :)
Try running against that ETF Sprinters list.
03-02-2013 06:53:20
cosmo
I'm doing that now
I have been working on a stratagy to try to use for /ES daytrading. SPY is as close as I can get since we can't use the futures.
The list looks ok
Actually I was runnig the wrong strat...I'm trying to cook also :)
Trying the list again
03-02-2013 06:57:17
BruceB_RR
Food is important too!
03-02-2013 06:58:42
cosmo
I have a few after 16:00 and it does not find SPY as it does when you run SPY by itself
03-02-2013 06:59:28
BruceB_RR
Hmmm, SPY is all over the place with my strat.
03-02-2013 07:00:28
cosmo
I have a # of them at 16:27
03-02-2013 07:00:56
BruceB_RR
It must be something about ETF's I guess.
03-02-2013 07:01:12
cosmo
They don't seem to all follow my strat either when viewed on TOS chart

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